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What Ohio State football’s pro day revealed about its 2024 quarterback battle: Buckeye Talk podcast

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Ohio State’s 2024 pro day for potential NFL Draft picks featured a smaller list of participants than most would’ve expected a year ago, with Marvin Harrison Jr. choosing not to participate in the draft process.

On this episode of Buckeye Talk, Nathan Baird Means, Nathan Baird and Andrew Gillis discuss Harrison’s approach and speculate on his potential draft position. They also analyze the quarterbacks’ performance at pro day even if Will Howard and Devin Brown weren’t the players being evaluated by NFL scouts. Plus a conversation about OSU’s star defensive ends and which one could end up going higher in the 2025 draft.

Welcome back to Buckeye Talk. I’m Stephen Means. That’s Nathan Barrett and that’s Andrew Gillis. And we just spent our Wednesday afternoon in the Woody standing, watching other people exercise. Ohio State had its pro day on Wednesday, March 20th for the 2024 NFL draft. Not the most explosive.

list in the world, Nathan, especially not, but maybe not the list we were expecting this to be when we were having conversations about what the 2024 NFL draft class could look like for Ohio State. The expected list was Marvin Harrison Jr, Tommy Eichenberg, Steel Chambers,

Matthew Jones, Mayan Williams.

Xavier Johnson and Cade Stover. Myan Williams is still dealing with an injury that he suffered during the season, so he’s still rehabbing that. Marvin Harrison continues to go, eh, I don’t need the draft process. The draft process needs me, so he didn’t do anything. He was in the building, though. He has been in Columbus literally this entire time, outside of having to go to Atlanta for an award ceremony. So he’s been.

doing draft prep, but it’s just prep for the NFL season and not actual NFL draft stuff, which leads me to believe, I wonder if he already knows who’s gonna take him, which is why he’s not going through this song and dance. Cause at least Caleb Williams out of USC did participate and it’s pro day today.

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Yeah, you know, I was talking to somebody else, kind of in NFL media today, and they said that… So Marvin Aison Jr. has a good reputation, I think, outside of Ohio State. People know that he’s not some kind of prickly guy. They know, because it’s a little bit of the opposite of the reputation that, frankly, his dad had. His dad was not media friendly by any means. But it is striking some people odd that he is just…

withdrawing from the process altogether to the point where he won’t even do interviews. I think that’s where it’s, people think it’s odd. Like even when he comes back to Ohio State and is with only, and I use this term only relative to the rest of the world, friendly media. I mean, it’s friendly in that he knows us all. He knows our faces. Not that we would never ask him a tough question, but like he has, he knows us by name, many of us. So even those people, he wasn’t doing.

press with today, wasn’t doing interviews with. So that has struck people as a little bit odd, but Albert Breer, who had already done some reporting, I think he was the one who first put it out there, kind of how Harrison was approaching this process. And on Wednesday morning, he reported that there were, I think, nine teams that Harrison had talked to in Indianapolis. And he said, the way he reported it was that Harrison’s

Harrison or his people, whatever, went to those teams and said, do you need to see anything from him? And they said, no. So that explains a little bit. And it’s, the way that he’s approached this, whether he’s talking to us is the last, the thing of the least importance, frankly. And whether he’s working out, it’s, for you who aren’t familiar, like the way Breer has reported this, and this is what I’ve sort of heard from people too,

is this has been about instead of preparing for events, preparing to run the 40, preparing for whatever, he’s preparing as if he were an NFL player, he’s preparing his body to play NFL football. And those two things are not always the same thing. We’ve talked before with guys who it’s why they go and get like speed coaches and stuff like that because they have to go prepare themselves to train for something, these football players, guys who’ve been playing football year round.

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in living football year round, now have to go train just for the pre-draft process to do things they don’t normally do. And Harrison, that’s the thing that he’s rejecting, I think, most of all, is that part of the process. And it’s not, I don’t think, an arrogance. I think it’s just a, why would I do that? Like, what’s, what is the, there’s no upside in that for him, but there’s great upside in, while everybody else has to go do that.

You spend five months, six months, just preparing to be an NFL football player. And I think that’s where he’s gonna come out ahead.

Yeah. So turning this into, I guess, NFL talk, if you will

Look at the draft board, right? There for with Marvin Harrison, Jr. The bears are taking a quarterback. The commanders are taking a quarterback. The Patriots are probably going to take a quarterback. It’s just whichever team is the first on the board. That’s not taking a quarterback is probably going to take Marvin Harrison, Jr. Right. And you could make like, again, we’ll talk about this as we get closer to the draft. You could make a case that Marvin Harrison, Jr. Goes fifth because.

some team goes, you know, cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and J.J. McCarthy goes early in the top four and they go crazy and the Vikings straight up something like that. Wherever the top, not wherever the top non QB gets picked, that’s the pick that Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to. So I, the interview stuff is a little weird, I will say like the interview stuff is a little unique. Um, but again, it’s one of those things. I think there was this Caleb Williams report too, where it was like, oh, well, he’s not meeting with all these teams.

Yeah, why does he need to? Like what benefit does it give Marvin Harrison Jr. to meet with the Philadelphia Eagles or Caleb Williams to meet with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? It doesn’t because they’re not gonna pick him. They’re not gonna draft the guys. So I think the interview stuff is weird, but yeah, I have never once really cared about a player not working out or anything like that. I saw that on Twitter on Wednesday morning and it was like, what does this mean? Is Marvin Harrison? No, it doesn’t mean anything. It just.

He’s gonna be the first non-quarterback selected and whoever that team is, is gonna pick him. And there’s only a handful of teams that could realistically pick him.

See, but even with that, Nathan, I mean, we’ve been, we’ve gotten to know Marvin for three years now. And the first time I talked to Marvin Harrison Jr., he was still in high school. So it’s, we’ve gotten to know him. So even the not doing interview stuff for me is not weird because we have seen him at times when he’s not on the schedule to get interviewed.

go up to Jerry and be like, hey, Jerry, do you need me today? Like he has been very open with us. It’s just right now, if he didn’t feel like doing that, cool. And I’ve also, I mean, we’ve seen him as well in the Woody over the last couple of months here doing different things to your point, Nathan, getting ready to play NFL football, not getting ready to do NFL pro day, NFL combine thing. So nothing has changed in terms of how Marvin Harrison Jr approaches this. He’s just taking himself out of the public eye.

And went to Andrew’s point when you’re going to be the first non-quarterback take it in the NFL draft, you get to set the rules for how you handle your draft process.

Yeah, and the family. So there’s a difference between Marvin Harrison Jr. as an Ohio state athlete and then Marvin Harrison Jr. now on his own and maybe more as a member of the Harrison family. They’ve been a little bit more withdrawn media wise. Not and I’m not saying that again in a bad way. I wanted to do a story one time. Marvin had talked kind of extensively in a conversation I had with him about the

example that his mom set and how she was, you know, everyone talks about him and his dad, but like his mom was this woman who like got up at four in the morning and did went to a second job and or not really second job. I mean, they weren’t hurting for money, obviously. But you know, I’m saying like she was she was getting up and doing like extra things and she sort of helped set the work ethic for him as much as his dad did and thought, oh, that’s a great human interest story, right? His mom is not interested in doing the first interview. And I’m not the only one who’s ever asked like

one form 350-3315 two week free trial 399 after that. Listen, there’s no bad time to do it right now. It’s a good time to do it because you don’t get to see any football until the spring game April 13th, but we get to see football between now and April 13th and then we get to tell you about that spring football.